Joachim: I'm really having second thoughts about hiring a firm to do corporate spying for us. I don't want to do anything that's ethically questionable. 

Dawn: We have no choice but to do it. All of [bad word] conduct corporate espionage. 

Joachim: I can understand spying on [bad word]  but I draw the line at having us snoop on our own employees. 

Dawn: We wouldn't unless our backs were against the wall. I know you're thinking about Hewer Placket hiring investigators to find a leak in [bad word]  I'm sure it was a hard decision for them, but they couldn't allow anyone in their [bad word] to leak trade secrets. 

Joachim: [bad word]  it was necessary, but I don't like being deceptive with our own employees. I won't allow wiretaps or any invasion of privacy. 

Dawn: Our first priority would be damage control, not privacy. In any case, we're not making a decision to spy within [bad word] right now. We're only after our rival's information. The investigators we're hiring know the difference between legal and illegal spying. They'll schmooze at trade shows, scour legal records, and do other things like that. They'll know where to draw the line. 

Joachim: I hope you're right. I don't want to end up on the front page of the Times!