Abidemi: So Rory, do you think holidays these days ... do you think they're [bad word]  What do you think?

Rory: I mean, they really [bad word] aren't they? Christmas especially. It seems to start earlier and earlier every year, so now you hear Christmas songs like in November and maybe even in October, and the stores start to have decorations. It is [bad word]  I don't know. I love Christmas, you know. So I love all the Christmas lights, but there is a lot of pressure on people to spend a lot of money at Christmas.

Abidemi: That's [bad word]  I think I am with you on that. I love Christmas. I love everything [bad word] with it: the songs, the food, the family time, so I can't [bad word] about it, but I think the year, the calendar year, has just [bad word] one big holiday thing, where you start off, you know ... I don't know, you start whenever. December Christmas finishes and we're already looking forward to Valentine's Day. Valentine Day finishes -- Easter, St. Patrick's Day. So it's like one continuous [bad word] up right after the other. So ...

Rory: And things like St Patrick's Day --- when I was a kid --- my family's Irish. We never celebrated St. Patrick's Day at all. I mean nothing. Didn't even talk about it. But now, all the pubs, and the bars, have promotions. The restaurants have promotions. You can buy green beer. People are wearing funny hats. It seems to me [bad word] a commercial holiday.

Abidemi: That's [bad word] 

Rory: It doesn't seem to be related to St Patrick at all.

Abidemi: That's [bad word]  That's [bad word]  Why do you think it's [bad word] more and more like that?

Rory: I guess just [bad word] see it -- the way to sell more products.